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jstack6
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A power boat is very bad for the environment.

They waste a lot of gas and oil.

They drip pollution into the water.

Also according to this article and new laws the fumers are 200 times more deadly than a car or truck,

 

Bill would target poisonings tied to boat exhaust

Matthew Benson
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 9, 2008 12:00 AM

Odorless, colorless and deadly, carbon monoxide claimed the life of 7-year-old Megan Evans while on a family boating trip at Lake Powell in July.

Now, the Flagstaff girl's parents hope that new legislation will help prevent future carbon-monoxide-related drowning deaths in Arizona.

The measure, House Bill 2024, would require that any new or used motorized boat in the state have stickers affixed at the controls and near the rear of the watercraft warning of the dangers of carbon-monoxide poisoning. Arizona's Motor Vehicles Division would issue an informational brochure with each boat newly registered.

 Lastly, the bill would prohibit occupying the rear swim deck, hanging onto the platform or swimming near the exhaust ports while the engine is running - activities that put the individual at greatest risk for carbon-monoxide poisoning. Fines may be added to bolster the legislation.

In Evans' case, fumes overcame her as she was swimming near a beached cabin cruiser whose engine was running to recharge its batteries. Marine engines aren't held to the same strict exhaust standards as vehicles, so carbon-monoxide emissions from a boat can be nearly 200 times higher.

"Really, all it takes is one full breath for you to pass out," said Matthew Evans, Megan's father.

Since 1995, there have been 141 reported deaths nationally and more than 600 non-lethal incidents involving boats and carbon-monoxide poisoning, said Rep. Albert Tom, D-Chambers, who is sponsoring the legislation.

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Submitted by jstack6 on Wed, 01/09/2008 - 11:45.

Cdub
How many warnings do we need?

Every year around winter there is a CO danger commercial every 1/2 hour. And as for boats I can't imagine the number of warnings that are in the manual and on the dash board of nearly every boat I seen that says, "MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ONE BEHIND THE BOAT WHEN THE ENGINE IS ON" and "TURN OFF THE ENGINE WHEN PICKING UP SKIIERS"

According to the Naval Safety Center "The symptoms of CO poisoning may include severe headache, dizziness, confusion, nausea, fainting, and death. Low levels can cause shortness of breath, mild nausea, and a mild headache. Low levels are more dangerous in the boating environment because they can lead to drowning. Carbon-monoxide poisoning may not be suspected immediately because the symptoms are similar to those of people with the flu, food poisoning, or other illnesses. If you suspect CO poisoning, immediately get the victim to fresh air and seek medical care."

"Many victims who survive have permanent brain damage. Anyone in the water without a PFD who is rendered unconscious will drown immediately." 

Even with this warning Teak surfing without a PFD is popular. Go figure. 

Seems that despite all the warnings people make mistakes, it happens, lets hope that someone learns from it.


Thu, 01/10/2008 - 08:34

ctyankee
Re: How many warnings do we need?

The *nanny state* has to warn us about *everything*!   It's insulting!  Did'ya ever read the "Darwin Awards" book(s)... yes more than one!  Good stuff.

I guess it's primarily a lake boat issue.  If the breeze is blowing, I can't imagine how CO could accumulate to dangerous levels,  unless the boat/engine is in disrepair.

My big issue is that when some fool does something stupid, the USCG has to dispatch a $20,000 flight to bail the idiot out of his predicament!  Simple solution is "You play, you pay".  These fools need to be handed the bill for their stupidity.  If they die, can't or won't pay, seize the boat, the RV, the SUV, the house, whatever that had that let them act so stupidly! 

Oh, BTW in order to make it work, the smart outdoors men could but a prepaid, non-refundable, insurance policy/bond, to cover the possible expense...  That would protect everyone.  Frivolous use of the coverage = jail time, & forced labor.  NQA!  If you're healthy enough to participate in a sporting activity, you're healthy enough for forced labor.  

It's so simple when ya'll see it my way! Smiling


Sun, 01/13/2008 - 10:04

jstack6
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Re: BOATS

I know some may say that a Sail boat is not a pollution source. My point is many boats are only used to play and don't do any work.

 They are even a few house boats with solar on them. It helps but not a lot. The solar cut be used to reduce coal and nuclear instead of play.

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Wed, 01/09/2008 - 11:47

ctyankee
Re: BOATS

I have a long term goal of selling the house and moving onto a sailboat, permanently.  I've had about all I need of the "homeowner" moniker.

By following the "warm" and dodging the hurricanes, we stop the heating bills. By limiting ourselves to a few hundred gallons a week of freshwater, we'll save that resource...  A small PV panel will make enough juice for the laptop, cell, and radio...  Lots of fresh fish, sustain-ably caught...

We're talking major simplification here...  500 cu ft of stuff including clothes... that's pretty lean.


Sun, 01/13/2008 - 09:48