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Re: Global Warming - I love that it's finally getting attention
Global Warming - I love that it's finally getting the attention it deserves By: GrnSam (31 replies) Tue, 04/03/2007 - 09:33
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Re: Global Warming - I love that it's finally getting attention
Billy,
I really mean H2O -- good 'ol water vapor! Why do I call it a GHG? because it blocks the radiation of heat back into space.
Why is it 200X more potent than CO2, because in the desert, the nighttime temp can fall below freezing, from more than 100 during the days...They call it radiational cooling... it occurs in the dry clear air.
But, on those rare desert nights when the shy is cloudy... and I mean even thin wispy clouds not heavy opaque clouds, the ground stays much much warmer. This is known as reflective warming... it occurs from the moisture.
Water vapor also transports the heat from the tropics to the poles. This is how most if the heat of the sun, gets schlepped around.
There is no doubt that CO2, SOx, NOx, CH4, and the whole slew of other GHGs float up high in the atmosphere and raise the apparent thermal background temperature of space to the observed -150 that we see today.
But attributing the changes in troposphere climate to 50-60deg per day to variations in the high stratosphere of 1-2 degrees per century, is just bad science, and worse logic. It's a simple minded grasping at straws by climate scientists that need to get their educations funded by government handouts.
I can callously call for the 5-10 rise, because there is little that we can do to change the outcome if that's what the astronomical cycles have in store for us. I can only prepare, by securing my own sources of energy, land and water. If 6+ billion others fail to do the same...
I call it a religion because you are being asked to believe in something that you cannot observe. The edicts come on down from a "priesthood" that claim superior understanding than the common man. It also makes folks feel good that they are helping all mankind. That doesn't make it true.
Again, don't misunderstand me... I want to see a decline on our dependence on fossil fuels! I think it's a waste to run a giant SUV around town. I'm one of the most eco-conscious people you'll likely talk to. I reuse *everything* until it's exhausted... it's borderline OCD... ( I pocket my paper napkins on the rare occasion I eat out, and use them until they're shreds... then toss the remains into the wood stove. I waste very very little!) I don't run errands, I combine trips, we shop with cloth bags, don't but bottled water... the list just goes on and on...
So, about those steps you feel we should take, again I'll ask... Will you commit to a solar powered system? Zero emissions, $5/Watt, 20 yr guarantee? How many can I count on you to support? I'm not asking for your $$$ yet, just your signed letter if intent to purchase after I demonstrate the working system... Are you voting or going for the ride?