Brett, I can assure you it's much more dangerous and bad for your health to be using gasoline. When you fill up to touch the handle of the pump with gas on it, the fumes from the fill up and your tank are bad enought but the exhaust can kill you in minutes (carbon dioxide).

In an accident the flames from the gas burning and dripiing all over along with teh explosion that can result kills more than the accident and over 40K die each year in auto accidents.

Then you take all the military conflicts we have been in to keep your oil flowing and it's very deadly. Next add global warming that may kill all living creatures on this one planet our of billions and you have the most deadly transportaion in the history of the universe. Oil is a killer.

Electric vehicles are better to use because they do cause any pollution and are not harmful to nature.

solar energy panel

oh dear , more unscientific mumbo jumbo - where are the conclusive scientific tests ?? - next thing we know is we will have some one suing someone if they are stood next to an EV .

i use a mobility scooter daily , this may or may not emit EMF - i don't know as i do not have a test range - properly calibrated to find out - should i call my lawyer and start proceedings , boy the "blame to claim " bandits would just LOVE another band waggon to hop on and make more money from

ALL forms of transport are inherently dangerous - trains that run on electric have MASSIVE motors - way bigger than cars , has any one ever bothered to test them ?? - hundreds of people a year world wide get roasted by spilt petrol in crashes ( i am an ex fire fighter so have had to deal with this ) - but do we worry about the chance of this happening each time we jump in an ICE vehicle ??

no - this is just more paranoia - generated by uniformed "opinion" on the Internet - ( probably started by the petrol companies to stop electric vehicles , just a little conspiracy theory there folks .LOL ) - WHEN and ONLY WHEN some one comes up with verifiable scientific PROOF ( note i don't say "scientific opinion " as we all know science can and has been proven wrong before ) that EMF's ARE harmful - thens the time to worry

and unless you have this so called electromagnetic hypersensitivity whatsit thingy - i doubt it will kill you any quicker than breathing in all the particulate muck chucked out by ICE's - which HAVE proven health effects ......

worrying about it ...... will do you FAR more harm

I have read the wiring under the seats are showing very high levels of EMF/EMR especially from the back seat. It seems that since the main objective of this website and people posting... are people that have hybrids... and are determined to prove to themselves and others that their car is saving the planet and not harmful to themselves or passenger or kids riding in the back seat. Faraday Cages ... blankets shielding you from the EMF/EMR is essential.

In a draft report issued in March 1990, the EPA recommended that EMFs be classified as a Class B carcinogen -- -a "probable human carcinogen and joined the ranks of formaldehyde, DDT, dioxins and PCBs......

Since then University of Pittsburgh has been carrying the torch ... but of course capitalism and saving the environment are more important than cancer prevention etc...

cheers,

The basic vehicle and DC power is not the issue. It's EMF from large motors in electric cars that could be a problem. I've measured and the only electric vehicle with any problem was the EV1 by GM.
I don't have a Tesla or other high end electric to test but should have a lot of the new Nissan electric here in the area in 201. They picked 4 cities across the country and we are one of them. I can't wait.

PS I've even tested hybrids like the Honda civic and prius. all were 100% clean.

Wow this is news to me! Sounds dangerous!

A car’s onboard electronics and wiring do generate some vibrating EMFs,
but a 1999 U.S. Department of Transportation study found that the
intensity of the vibrating EMFs in and around electric vehicles was
nearly the same as those of conventional vehicles—and a thousand times
better than European Union safety standards (the United States has no
such standards for EMFs). This is possible despite the fact that hybrid
motors with camshaft are larger and generate more electricity because the electric
wiring connecting the battery to the motor is shielded.

Inexpensive EMF meters will not read high frequency EMF -- they are optimized for 60Hz fields used in AC power distribution.

The control circuits in electric vehicles operate at frequencies thousands of times higher, which cannot be detected by inexpensive EMF meters.

But don't take my word for it; stick your meter right next to a cell phone that's pumping several watts of electromagnetic radiation right into your head! It will register nothing. 

If you are more than 3 feet away from the Inverters you are very safe. When I measured my Solar DC to AC inverters located outside on the North side of my house the EMF dropped off after just 1 foot away. 

So, what does anyone know about EMF or ELF radiation from an inverter (solar DC to household AC)? I'm hoping the wiring in the unit is done in such a way that induced frequencies damp each other out. Forgive me if my terminology is wrong. Any data would be appreciated.

BB, What meter did you use ?  Did you measure harmful AC EMF or DC magnetic EMF ? What vehicles did you check ?

Facts are the basis of true knowledge. General statements are dangerous.

Great thread here. I actually did some readings with a friend about 13 months ago. We tested several cars, Suv's etc. both idling at at speeds and found that 99.9% of them were over a reading of 4mg's in some instances 6+. This took place mainly at the foot peddles as well as the back seat. This became a concern in the fact that infants may be particularly prone to temporal noise that can interfere with the initial calibration of brain networks such as the mirror neuron system. The most likely source of temporal noise in the environment is artificially generated electromagnetic radiation. Thus the children, infants in this case ride in the back seat. Furthermore it is also specualted that EMF's are perhaps the leading cause of autism in children today.  I know that this concern is in fact on the rise. Several companies have began working on the development of EMF blankets that will, with hope, become a standay in most "electric" cars in the near future. "Niken" is one of the companies currently working on this technology. The blanket will act like a firewall, it's purpose will be to block out the EMF's whether large or small. The fact is they are there, and they are harmfull in any amount. This combined with the EMF's we are already being bombarded with on a regular basis provide nothing but a recipe for disaster.... and perhaps cancer??? who knows where the research has stopped, or halted for a lack of better words.

As for the readings, the cars and the meter. I can't honestly give the exact details to my readings, and giving them will not make my write-up any stronger as far as I'm concerned, but I do recall the concern, and the above mg points I read in the cars. I faced a difficult problem back then when I became aware of the readings.. do I tell others and give the gas cars the ammunition they look for to keep a ever polluting vechicle on the road, or stay somewhat silent about it and let the problme take care of itself.....

Regards,

Burke Bryant

Right you are. Even a dumb old gas ICE car would die, if we had a large electrical pulse wipe out electronics devices.  We have electronic ignition in almost every car in the last 10 years. Only my bicycle would keep going just like normal but my speedometer  would stop.

  Bach on the more realist EMF, I have studied this since the 90's . I just want facts instead of vague articles. The only EV I ever checked that was poor was the EV1. My Prius has the batteries and DC wiring in the back so I can't see how anyone with any meter would read a thing there. EMP is mostly from AC power and AC motors, like a fan whick I have read.

  The hybrid AC motors are under the hood like the ICE and not very close to the passengers. Now a pure AC electric like the Tesla and eBox many be more like the EV1. I'd love to test one. I

I found a few sites that have EMF meters, from about $100 to $800. There are AC and DC meters. Mine is AC since I read that was the only one that affects human health.

http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html

http://www.lessemf.com/dcgauss.html

I have read several other posts on the Internet in which people have measured emf levels in their hybrid cars. There does not seem to be any consistency in their findings, even for the same model cars. The car companies that test emf levels need to disclose their test data. It would also be nice if some consumer group would have hybrid emf levels tested by an independent lab. Baring those things, I don't know how this confusion is going to be resolved, and the rumors of emf dangers will continue to grow and could hurt the electric car industry.

I know my meter works well and the swedish TOC standard I used. I also know the reading on high power lines and the EV1 were real.

I'd like to know what the other meter was , who did the test and what standard they used. Mine is in milli gaus. The readings are one's I do eveyplace I go and in every car.

Who, what and when on the other test ? Perhaps it was a rumor started by big oil companies. Let the tester and method stand and identify themself 

I check every hybrid and EV I drive or ride in. I use a Frey's electronics EMP meter about 50 buucks. I also check things around home and at work.

The meters tells about the swedish T.C.O.  standard of 2 milli gaus or higher for prolonged times is very bad. Only in the EV1 did I measure 8-24 mg, right in the fron t seats (it's only a 2 seater). Very bad.

In hybrids I measure nothing even in the front or back of a Honda and Totota are clean.

Power lines are very bad. Under them I have read over 100 milli gaus. In our area of Gilbert AZ the power company lets people jog and walk under the high power lines. I have seen mothers with small children and babies in stollers. I stop and show them my meter and readings. It's a crime.

Vehicles so far are not a problem. Watch out for high power lines !!